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Windowed Preview

June 9, 2020
Not every church, at least the small ones or starting ones, have a lot of hardware. In our case, we use my personal MacBook pro to stream and display lyrics and bible verses. We don't have a second display and we don't need it because we are using WE just for live streaming. So my suggestion is to allow the preview small window to be also displayed in windowed option (in a window). So can be selected in OBS and streamed.

Thanks.
Posted by David
June 12, 2020
This is desperately needed!! I have no way of even using worship extreme because I, too, need to display the worship extreme display to the obs stream without a second monitor! This seems like such a huge oversight.
Posted by Climbers
June 12, 2020
Climbers, I use a trick but is not the best solution. I select the complete WE window on OBS and crop just the small preview. As I said is not the best solution.
Posted by David
June 29, 2020
Thanks David. I've thought of that possibility before but as you said, it's not really the best solution. The quality of the captured window in that case would not look good when stretched for fullscreen.

I'm still hoping that the WorshipExtreme team will incorporate a windowed projector/preview option so OBS can capture it with ease.
Posted by Climbers
June 29, 2020
Thanks David. I've thought of that possibility before but as you said, it's not really the best solution. The quality of the captured window in that case would not look good when stretched for fullscreen.

I'm still hoping that the WorshipExtreme team will incorporate a windowed projector/preview option so OBS can capture it with ease.
Posted by Climbers
August 16, 2020
Yes! Thi sis a much needed feature - a Virtual Display Screen option. This will allow us to display songs and verses directly into Zoom.
Posted by God of Mercy
October 21, 2020
Please add my vote for this feature!

I control everything through OBS and would like Worship Extreme to be just one more video source that I can include. I can do this easily using the Window Capture feature in OBS. However, in order to get a WE output I need a second monitor, which is an addition piece of hardware that I want to do without in my simple setup. In the display settings in WE I can specify that I want a Preview Screen on the main monitor (because I have a single monitor setup), and even specify the resolution, but the preview window is confined to the lower left hand corner of the WE application window. It would be great if the 'Preview Screen' in single monitor setups could be its own window (at the resolution specified), then I could tag this window in OBS and do without the extra hardware. In every other respect, WE is perfect and does everything I need very simply, elegantly and well.
Posted by Andre
October 21, 2020
p.s. I've found a way of doing this (thanks to AJay of AJaytheCEO YouTube channel)!

It's a bit 'clunky' and relies on using a dongle (in my case a USB HDMI dongle) to fool your PC (and therefore WE) into thinking there's a second monitor attached, even though there isn't.

You can then set up WE to use this 'virtual' monitor as the Audience Output screen. You then 'Window Capture' the Audience Output 'virtual' window in OBS. In my setup (MacBook Pro), the window is titled "[Worship Extreme]Worship Extreme Display[Main Audience Output]". If, like me, you want to overlay WE text on an OBS video source, you can use the OBS Colour Key feature.

This is a neat setup, although imperfect because you still need external hardware (the dongle). However, you can do without an actual 2nd monitor.
Posted by Andre
October 21, 2020
Hi Andre, this works for MacOS? Can you put the link of the video please?
Posted by David
October 21, 2020
Hi David. Sorry - I meant to put the link in my message, but forgot. It's here: https://youtu.be/R3XTPPd_SgU.

I need to revise my description somewhat, based on what I've discovered after some more experimentation!

I've got an external HP monitor that I use with my MacBook Pro for the live OBS program output (stands in for the projector when I'm doing testing). I use the mini-Display Port on the Mac for this output. The dongle I used is a Cable Matters Display Link USB to HDMI adaptor. While playing around trying to get the 'virtual' monitor configuration to work, I connected an HDMI cable between the HDMI dongle and an HDMI port on the HP monitor (so I effectively have two video inputs into the same monitor). This all worked perfectly! I then wondered whether I needed a monitor plugged into the HDMI dongle at all so I unplugged the cable and found that everything still worked! That's when I wrote the above comment.

However, I've subsequently discovered I can't reproduce this configuration. It now seems an HDMI device needs to be continually present for everything to work reliably (i.e. my HP monitor needs to be connected via mDP + HDMI). I think I got in a tangle with the various settings in the Cable Matters Display Link Manager, in EasyRes (a third-party utility I use for switching resolutions from the menu bar), the WE display settings and whether the HDMI cable was plugged in or not. Too many permutations! There may be some combination that achieves what I thought I achieved before, but I can't find it again!
Posted by Andre
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